OFF THE WIRE
Our good friend over at Photography Is Not A Crime, Carlos Miller, updated a Post recently,
The stop was initiated as Mr. Pringle was unlawfully smoking a cigarette on the Boardwalk. Of which, Mr. Pringle owns up to:
Once the Mobile Phone was noticed, M. Reinhold asks Mr. Pringle “would you put that away, please?” Mr. Pringle stated, calmly “No, thank you, I am in a public place I have a right to film this”. At this point, M. Reinhold states “Let me ask you…you know what actually….” and his demeanor appears to change, and he states the following, “Cell phones can be converted into weapons…look it up online” all while Mr. Pringle states “this is not a weapon, there is no way this is a weapon”.
The discussion goes back and forth until M. Reinhold states “Okay, I’m going to have to take that away from you”, which he proceeds to do and arrests Mr. Pringle. As seen in this video link.
Now, utilizing the suggested medium, the internet we went to look it up online, there are some quite interesting Cell Phone converted weapons, all of which I’m sure M. Reinhold was concerned about, while his partner, must have been unaware(s):
In the James Bond/Laura Croft worlds, one could be rightly concerned with a Cell Phone gun, however citing Mr. Pringle for “Smoking on the boardwalk”, we don’t believe that’s justifiable under “Officer Safety”.
According to the website Hoax-slayer:
The Cell Phone Stun Gun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axgKGHvSCGQ
Now, following M. Reinhold’s logic, an Officer may feel threatened by a myriad of items as one travels down the street:
Cane Gun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I10T_ylKba8
Sword Cane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7ozTWYvk2o
Deck of Cards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XOn9MI-9XQ
Mr. Snuffleupagus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYPxNCRjfrE
Did M. Reinhold violate Mr. Pringles civil rights in the matter?
Mr. Pringle’s first hearing on the matter is May 23, 2013 in San Diego. In the interim, contact the following civic leaders and ascertain their thoughts on the matter.
San Diego Mayor Bob Filner: email: BobFilner@sandiego.gov phone: (619) 236-6330
Chief William Lansdowne: (619) 531-2000
San Diego City Council:
Council President Pro Tem Sherri Lightner: sherrilightner@sandiego.gov
Councilmember Kevin Faulconer: kevinfaulconer@sandiego.gov
Council President Todd Gloria: toddgloria@sandiego.gov
Councilmember Mark Kersey: markkersey@sandiego.gov
Councilmember Lorie Zapf: loriezapf@sandiego.gov
Councilmember Scott Sherman: scottsherman@sandiego.gov
Councilmember David Alvarez: davidalvarez@sandiego.gov
Councilmember Marti Emerald: martiemerald@sandiego.gov
San Diego Police Attach and Arrest Man Video Recording Them, Claiming Phone Could be a Weapon – UpdatedAs one views the video, it’s not even until one minute, that the Citing Officer – M. Reinhold – Badge Number 6223, with the San Diego Police Department, noted that the “suspect” was even recording. His partner, who is shown on the recording as well, was monitoring Mr. Pringle while he was recording the incident from the very beginning. One would think, that if there was a concern with the Mobile Phone Mr. Pringle had, a Samsung Galaxy, the monitoring partner would have intervened and possible even drawn his weapon, if he had per chance felt, that he, or even his partner were being threatened.
The stop was initiated as Mr. Pringle was unlawfully smoking a cigarette on the Boardwalk. Of which, Mr. Pringle owns up to:
“It is against the law to smoke cigarettes on the boardwalk, so I admit I was breaking the law,” Pringle said in a telephone interview with Photography is Not a Crime Tuesday.
Once the Mobile Phone was noticed, M. Reinhold asks Mr. Pringle “would you put that away, please?” Mr. Pringle stated, calmly “No, thank you, I am in a public place I have a right to film this”. At this point, M. Reinhold states “Let me ask you…you know what actually….” and his demeanor appears to change, and he states the following, “Cell phones can be converted into weapons…look it up online” all while Mr. Pringle states “this is not a weapon, there is no way this is a weapon”.
The discussion goes back and forth until M. Reinhold states “Okay, I’m going to have to take that away from you”, which he proceeds to do and arrests Mr. Pringle. As seen in this video link.
Now, utilizing the suggested medium, the internet we went to look it up online, there are some quite interesting Cell Phone converted weapons, all of which I’m sure M. Reinhold was concerned about, while his partner, must have been unaware(s):
At 1:50 in the above video link, M. Reinhold states, “if he would have just given the phone, let me look at it, isn’t that a reasonable thing to do?”i.e., a mobile phone used to record interaction with the police, is an officer safety issue, which trumps the 4th amendment. One might questions, if that’s the concern, why his partner did not intervene sooner, and secondly why did he not immediately subdue the subject under “officer safety” considerations, rather than debate with him for 40 seconds prior to slapping the cell phone away?
Person A: ”How is this a weapon?”
Person B: ”Like a bomb?”
M. Reinhold: “I didn’t know for sure…if you look it up online, cell phones can be converted into firearms and tazers, look it up online there is video of how to do it… so if someone is going to stand within a couple of feet of me, and film me, I’m gonna need to look at that cell phone and make sure it’s not a weapon…”
In the James Bond/Laura Croft worlds, one could be rightly concerned with a Cell Phone gun, however citing Mr. Pringle for “Smoking on the boardwalk”, we don’t believe that’s justifiable under “Officer Safety”.
According to the website Hoax-slayer:
Although cell phone guns are real, I could find no reports of the devices actually being used in major crimes such as attempted hijackings or terrorist activities. However, there have been several reports of cell phone guns being seized from criminals in Europe.The Cell Phone Gun:
The concept of disguising guns as everyday items is actually nothing new. For many years, guns and other weapons have been disguised to look like pens, calculators, cameras, canes and a number of other commonplace objects.
The Cell Phone Stun Gun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axgKGHvSCGQ
Now, following M. Reinhold’s logic, an Officer may feel threatened by a myriad of items as one travels down the street:
Cane Gun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I10T_ylKba8
Sword Cane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7ozTWYvk2o
Deck of Cards
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XOn9MI-9XQ
Mr. Snuffleupagus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYPxNCRjfrE
Did M. Reinhold violate Mr. Pringles civil rights in the matter?
Mr. Pringle’s first hearing on the matter is May 23, 2013 in San Diego. In the interim, contact the following civic leaders and ascertain their thoughts on the matter.
San Diego Mayor Bob Filner: email: BobFilner@sandiego.gov phone: (619) 236-6330
Chief William Lansdowne: (619) 531-2000
San Diego City Council:
Council President Pro Tem Sherri Lightner: sherrilightner@sandiego.gov
Councilmember Kevin Faulconer: kevinfaulconer@sandiego.gov
Council President Todd Gloria: toddgloria@sandiego.gov
Councilmember Mark Kersey: markkersey@sandiego.gov
Councilmember Lorie Zapf: loriezapf@sandiego.gov
Councilmember Scott Sherman: scottsherman@sandiego.gov
Councilmember David Alvarez: davidalvarez@sandiego.gov
Councilmember Marti Emerald: martiemerald@sandiego.gov